Design Next Podcast: Mitzi Okou, from Disillusionment to Industry Activism

In episode 6 of Design Next, we speak to designer, activist and changemaker Mitzi Okou, Co-founder of Where Are the Black Designers? and Product Designer with experience at Spotify, Netflix and HP.

In a conversation rooted in empathy, Mitzi shares how her lived experience led to the creation of the advocacy platform that is helping reshape the design industry. She explores the emotional complexity of job hunting as a Black designer, the dangers of tokenism, and why true creativity can only thrive in safe, inclusive environments.

“Sometimes I walked out of interviews wondering, was it me? Or was it because I’m Black?”

“I don’t want anyone I work with to worry about anything except their work. That’s my responsibility as a leader.”

Mitzi also reflects on the importance of generational wisdom; leadership should feel like advocacy, and being unserious might just be Gen Z’s greatest creative superpower…

“Listening is free. It makes people feel seen, and that’s the most powerful thing you can do.”

Mitzi’s voice is one that blends genuine openness with strength; a reminder that the most impactful designers are those who bring their whole selves, and a rich life experience, to work. This episode is a great listen for anyone striving to create a more inclusive and empowered creative industry.